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PostSubject: L-2 Stall/Spin Characteristics   Wed May 13, 2009 4:16 pm

It's fairly well known that the L-2s were grounded for a time by the USAAF after some stall/spin accidents. Now having flown an L-2 myself, I don't think I've ever gotten close to a spin, but do any of the other pilots on the board have an opinion?

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PostSubject: Re: L-2 Stall/Spin Characteristics   Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:53 pm

Ryan,
I've had my L-2 for 6 years. They are extremely docile airplanes. The issues the Army had were a series of fatal crashes while landing. Specifically while making circling approaches and the pilots getting too slow and stalling while in turns. The L-2 stalls abruptly and, if banked over, wants to go onto its back. I've tried this a few times at altitude.

The L-2 has very little washout compared to a L3- or L-4 so is a little less well behaved when stalling. The trade-off is that an L-2 will walk away from it's L-bird siblings. Cruise is about 15 mph faster.

Flown properly, the L-2 offers little in the way of surprises. Before stalling there is plenty of warning. The plane wants a lot of aft stick, there's a bit of buffetting and the controls get very mushy. Finally it gets eerily silent in the cabin. At this point you're probably about 1mph away from stalling.
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PostSubject: Re: L-2 Stall/Spin Characteristics   Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:20 pm

That just about jives with what I've experienced. I think it's more a matter of training. Is suspect that the Army (or the instructors weren't training to the aircraft, but to the techniques and that, properly used, the L-2 could've been even better than the L-4 in combat.

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PostSubject: Re: L-2 Stall/Spin Characteristics   Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:46 am

As much as it pains me to admit it, the low-speed handling of the Cub likely did make it better suited for the needs of the Army ground forces although I would argue that the advent of the L-2M with spoilers negated any Cub advantage. With spoilers deployed, the L-2 can fly amazingly steep approaches. Landing roll is nearly non-existent.

Combat effectiveness of L-birds probably wouldn't see much difference between them. They're all essentially the same -- just variations on a theme. Take-off; orbit, observe and report; land.

I think the L-2 was done in by instructors/students hopping from one aircraft to another and believing they all handled the same. Pity as I think the L-2 is the better of the three.
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